'Proceedings at the Council Table (4 April 1628)'
British Library, Harley MS 390, ff. 379r-386r
12 April 1628
That on friday the Eue of their fast, late in the afternoone
beyond all expectation, the House of Commons gaue his Ma[jes]tie
unanimously
without
all condition/ .5. subsidies to be payed beweene this & Christmas.
The report whereof being by S[i]r Iohn Cook carried to his Ma[jes]tie
his Ma[jes]tie expressed wonderfull joy & contentment saying he was
more happie then any of the Kings his predecessors were, &c & then asking S[i] Iohn Cook further by how many voices he carried it,
he answered But by once voice; whereat his Ma[jes]tie being at first
somewhat appalled appalled, S[i]r Iohn replyed, his Ma[jes]tie had so much
the greater cause of joy, the whole House being so vnanimous, as
they made all but One voice at which they say His Ma[jes]tie wept.
The Duke at the Counsell Table whitherwhere his {gap: illegible} Ma[jes]tie was present humbly besought his Ma[jes]tie to grant all the Parlaments desires,
since he was perswaded they intended nothing more then his & the
Kingdomes good. And the better to accomplish it desire his Ma[jes]tie to
withdraw his favour from him, seing he was willing to sacrifice
himselfe his honours & all that he had for the good of his Countrey
And whereas he vnderstood, that his pluralitie of Offices was excepted
against, he was contented to giue up the Master of the Horse to
Marquesse Hammilton, The Warden of the Cinque Ports to the
E of Carleile, when he returned from his Ambassadge. And for the
Admiraltie, he desired onely to be Admirall in time of peace & at
home, & that the Counsell & the Houses of Parlament might appoint
another Admirall for all seruice at Sea. This was within few houres
after the grant of the subsidies.
Secretary Cook returning to the House to signifie his Ma[jes]ties {ioyfull ex} gracious acceptance & that his Ma[jes]tie promised he would
deny them nothing that any of his predecessors had granted {gap: illegible} them, for
their liberties & immunities &c he added also, for a conclusion what
service my Lo[rd] Duke had done in so earnestly beseeching his Ma[jes]tie to
giue the House full content in all their desires. For which S[i]r Iohn
Eliot stood vp & checked him, saying, that they in what they had done
had no respect to any but his Ma[jes]tie alone, nor intended {gap: illegible} to giue
any man content but him onely, nor regarded any mans acceptance but his.
Nor knew they of any other distinction but of King & Subjects
& therefore accounted of the Great man no otherwise than as one of
themselues, who together with them was to advise of meanes to giue his
Ma[jes]tie contentment {gap: illegible} in prouision for the good of the
Kingdome. Wherevnto many in the House made an acclamation, Well spoken S[i]r Iohn Eiot.
On monday Last the Duke made a speach in the Lords house
which they say, giues much contentment. The King is willing to
yeeld to all they desire in behalfe of their liberties; onely stands somewhat vpon the point o billetting of souldiers. which he sees not, how he can
yeeld to, as they desire it, without some maine diminution to his prerogatiue
yet it is supposed, they they will agree
13 April 1628 Worthie Sir/
This l[ett]re enclosed was written time enough, but
sent to late, or the Cheesman went too soone & sooner then he
was wont. for it stayd behind. I sent it now to Kenford,
if the Carrier carie it not to Bury to gett 2d more, as once
he did. And that I may make some amends for disappointing your
expectation, at the usuall time; I sent with it the summe of [th]e
Kings speech & the Dukes formally printed. I wonder, whose wisedome
it was, in this sort, to publish them thus checkmate together: but I hope
you will excuse me for sending them. In my le[tt]re I told you
that the Duke in his speech made offer of resignation of some of
his offices vpon this occasion: I saw it written from Court, & from the relation of one that kept that Counsell-chamberdore all the while. But
you shall find no such matter in this printed speech. It may be, it
aws not thought fitt. The rest I wrot about the subsidies &
the consequents, you may correct by what, I haue inscribed into
the couer of the speaches, in the same words I receiued it yesterday from Mr Pory. whose intelligence I supp suppose is more more perfect, then that I had before, depending vpon memory.
The Parlament sittes euery day, saue onely this, the K himselfe moued to haue it so. The rest you shall receiue next saturday. In hast with my respect.
Christ Coll[ege] Aprill 13.
380vTo the R wor[shipfu]ll his much respect freind S[i]r Martin Stuteville Knight these at Dalham
Aprill. 12. et 15
Leaue this letter at Kenf
Kenford at Mr James
Fysons to be sent
as aforesayd presently
vpon the receipt
I pray be carefull that it be not carried to Bury.
381r 381vBoth speeches following were deliuered at the Counsell table in the afternoone of th same day, when the five subsidies were granted in the House of Commons.
The same morning before the graunt, his Ma[jes]tie had sent a most gracious message to the House, by S[i]r Iohn Cook, signifieing, that he would confirme all the priviledges of the subject conteined either in Magna charta, or elsewhere, in any manner, as they should think good to propound. Which message so privailed with them, as they presently fell into the discourse of giving, which ended with the graunt aforesayd. To this message is reference in the Dukes speach.
382rAprill 4.
The proceeding of the Parliament, being this day related to the King, by the Councellors of the Commons House of Parliament.
HIS Maiestie vpon the report made, expressed great content-ment that it gaue him; not valewing the Money giuen, comparable to the hearts shewed in the way of the Guift: For although his great occasions of State did require more Money then at this time was giuen; yet now he made account he could not lacke since he had their loues; and that this day, he thought that he had gayned more Re-putation in Christendome, then if he had wonne many Battailes; Say-ing further, (according to his Speech the first day of the Parliament,) That they might easily make him in louewith382v with Parliaments, (now he professed he was so:) And that we should finde the fruits of it by calling vs often to-gether, and to secure further feares, and create future confidence, he assu-red vs that we should enioy as great imunitie and freedom in his time, as euer we possessed or had vnder the Reigne of any the best Kings of this Realme.
383rThe Duke of Bvckingham his Speach to his Maiestie on Friday being the 4th. of A-prill, 1628.
SIR,
MEE thinkes I now behold you a great King; For loue is greater then Maiestie. Opinion that your People loued you not had almost lost you in the opinion of the World: but this day makes you appeare as you are, A glorious King loued at home, and now to bee feared abroad. This falling out so happily, I beseech you giue mee leaue to bee an humble Sutor vnto your Maiestie. First, for my selfe, that I who haue had the honour to be your Fauourite, may now giue vp383v vp my title vnto them, they to bee your Fauourite, and I to bee your Seruant. My second sute is, that they hauing all done so well, you will account of them all as one, a Body of many members, but all of one Heart. Opinion might haue made them differ, but Affection did moue them all to ioyne with like loue in this great Guift: for pro-portion it being lesse then your oc-casions may aske, yet it is more then euer Subiects did giue in so short a time: Nor am I perswaded it will rest there, for this is but as an ear-nest of their affections, to let you see, and the world know what Sub-iects you haue, that when your Ho-nour and the good of the State is en-gaged, and Ayde asked in the ordi-dinary way of Parliament, you can- not384r not want. This is not a gift of fiue Subsidies alone, but the opening of a Mine of Subsidies which lyeth in their hearts. This good beginning hath wrought already these ef-fects, they haue taken your heart, drawne from you a declaration that you will loue Parliaments. And a-gaine, this will be mett, I make no question, with such respect, that their demands will be iust, dutifull and moderate: For they that know thus to giue, knowe what is fit to aske: then cannot your Maiestie do lesse then outgoe their demands or else you doe lesse then your selfe, or them: For your Message begat trust, their trust and your promise must then beget performance. This being done, then shall I with a glad heart hold this worke as well ended as384v as now begun, and then shall I hope that Parliaments shalbe made here-after so frequent, by the effects and good vse of them, as shall haue this further benefit, to deterre from ap-proaching your eares those Proiec-tors & Inducers of Innouation, as di-sturbers both of Church & Co[m]mon-wealth. Now Sir, to open my heart and to ease my griefe, please you to pardon me a word more. I must confesse I haue long liued in paine, Sleepe hath giuen mee no rest, Fa-uours & Fortunes no content, much haue bene my secret sorrowes to be thought the man of Seperation, and that diuided the King from his peo-ple, and them from him; but I hope it shall appeare, they were some mi-staken mindes, that would haue made me the euill Spirit that wal- ked385r ked betweene a good Master and a loyall People for ill offices. VVhereas by your Maiesties fa-uour, I shall euer endeauour to ap-proue my selfe a good Spirit brea-thing nothing but the best of serui-ces vnto them all. Therefore this day I account more blessed vnto me then my birth, to see my selfe able to serue them, to see you brought in loue with Parliaments, to see a Parliament expresse such loue to you. Loue them I beseech you, and God so loue me and mine, as I ioy to see this day.
385v 386rThe next morning being satturday April. 5. S[r] Iohn Cook made report of both these speaches to the House of Com[m]ons./
Which being done, S[i]r Iohn Eliott stept up, & taxed Mr Secretary for entermingling a subjects speech with the Kings message, whereby he might seeme (sayd he) to derogate from the honour & Ma[jes]tie of a King. Nor could it become any subject, to beare himselfe in such a fashion, as if no grace out to descend from the King to [th]e people, nor any loyaltie ascend from the people to [th]e King, but through him onely./
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British Library, Harley MS 390, ff. 379r-386r, Newsletters from Joseph Meade to Sir M Stuteville, vol. II, 1626-1631
Languages: English
Creation date: 4 April 1628
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- Aprill 4. The proceeding of the Parliament, being this day related to the King, by the councellors of the Commons House of Parliament ([London], [1628]) [STC 24739], sigs. A2r–A4r
- George Villiers 1st Duke of Buckingham, The Duke of Buckingham his speech to the King in Parliament Aprill 4. 1628 (London, 1641) [Wing B5308B]
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